It's such a shame about forums not really getting the traffic they used to. I got my first frogs off John years ago . It seems people just want frogs to breed instantly and if they don't bring in money they leave the hobby, I think that's pretty standard in the reptile hobby but frogs was always a little different. You had the main stays and a few people who got frog Burn out. I really miss the old house meets we had, nice little community, my house is to small and I would always worry about the numbers you 'may' attract nowadays. As for rainforest vivs Richie is attempting to move abroad possibly but if he doesn't succeed he's told me he will be back with a vengeance.